RE: [Corpora-List] Looking for linguistic principles

From: John Goldsmith (jagoldsm@uchicago.edu)
Date: Fri Oct 14 2005 - 16:34:26 MET DST

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    In response to Rob Freeman, who wrote:

    Perhaps you can tell me what the current orthodoxy is towards what I
    understand was Chomsky's earliest controversial result: that distributional
    methods applied to language result in a loss of generality of
    representation. I.e. In "Logical basis of linguistic theory"(at least as
    reported by Fred Newmeyer in his "Generative Linguistics -- A Historical
    Perspective"):

    "Halle has pointed out that it is generally impossible to provide a level of
    representation meeting the biuniqueness condition without destroying the
    generality of rules..." (Chomsky, LBLT)

    I understand this was Chomksy's earliest controversial result, that it
    created quite a stir, and essentially killed the distributional analysis
    which had been the dominant linguistic orthodoxy of the day.

    Am I right that his objection was never really successfully addressed, only
    forgotten? I can't find too much about it. Perhaps you know.

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    The best discussion of the content, background, and impact of Halle's
    argument is to be found in Stephen Anderson's paper (
    http://bloch.ling.yale.edu/Public/Royaumont.pdf).

    I have a detailed webpage -- from a course I did last year -- on the
    development of early generative phonology from its structuralist
    antecedents:
    http://humfs1.uchicago.edu:16080/~jagoldsm/Webpage/Courses/HistoryOfPhonolog
    y/index.htm

    There is a discussion of Harris's views in my paper in the current issue of
    Language (available also at
    http://humfs1.uchicago.edu:16080/~jagoldsm/Webpage/Courses/HistoryOfPhonolog
    y/index.htm )

    And a brief overview of the history of this area in a paper by Bernard Laks
    and myself, at
    http://humfs1.uchicago.edu:16080/%7Ejagoldsm/Papers/GenerativePhonology.pdf

     

    The controversy you refer to did not speak to the question of distributional
    methods in phonology or elsewhere; that was a separate issue, and the
    perspective that Chomsky criticizes was his interpretation of Harris
    (inaccurate, in my view), and Harris took what other linguists of the period
    (like Charles Hockett) thought was a wildly extreme position, though they
    recognized that he did it in part in order to see the consequences of
    adopting a strong methodological position.

    John Goldsmith

     

     



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