Re: [Corpora-List] Google searches as linguistic evidence

From: Ramesh Krishnamurthy (r.krishnamurthy@aston.ac.uk)
Date: Fri Dec 08 2006 - 11:24:09 MET

  • Next message: Yorick Wilks: "Re: [Corpora-List] Numpties and bennies: Google searches as linguistic evidence"

    >Quantitative needs to be tempered with qualitative research.

    Or... the quantitative results need to be interpreted...

    At 17:53 07/12/2006, Alison Duguid wrote:
    >Looks like a case of shifting or wobbly priming to me, as Michael
    >Hoey has pointed out education has a key role in priming and the
    >problem might be caused by doubt in a situation when fears about
    >correctness are uppermost because shifting identities are at work.
    >The questioner is really asking someone who is perceived to be a
    >native speaker of a
    >variety (academic/correct) in which he felt he was not a native,
    >what would be the acceptable version.
    >Also look how many hits you get for 'nucular', and then look again
    >at the co-texts and contexts. Quantitative needs to be tempered with
    >qualitative research.
    >
    >
    >Geoffrey Sampson wrote:
    >
    >>An amazing experience I had a few years ago was being asked in all
    >>seriousness by one of my part-time researchers whether "a bad egg" or
    >>"an bad egg" was correct. With another part of his time he worked for a
    >>company alongside another man who had to do some documentation and
    >>insisted that the correct form was "an bad egg". So far as I could make
    >>out, this other man (who, like my researcher, was as I understood it a
    >>native speaker) thought he had learned a rule that "a" v. "an" depends
    >>on whether the following noun begins with a vowel, and this explicit
    >>rule overrode in his mind what must surely have been a large weight of
    >>experience implying that it is not the following noun, but the
    >>immediately-following word, that matters. The third party was quite
    >>sure that only "an bad egg" would do in writing; my researcher was
    >>dubious, but felt he needed my professorial authority to contradict his
    >>colleague. This seemed to me very striking counter-evidence against the
    >>idea that native speakers "know" the rules of their language.
    >>Comparable misunderstandings of the a/an rule might perhaps explain
    >>sporadic cases of "an w..." written by people who would surely _say_ "a
    >>w..." when they were speaking spontaneously, without thinking about
    >>language issues.
    >>
    >>Geoffrey Sampson
    >>
    >>............................................................
    >> Prof. Geoffrey Sampson MA PhD MBCS CITP ILTM
    >>
    >> author of "The 'Language Instinct' Debate"
    >>
    >> Department of Informatics, University of Sussex
    >> Falmer, Brighton BN1 9QH, England
    >>
    >> www.grsampson.net +44 1273 678525
    >>............................................................
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    Ramesh Krishnamurthy

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