Re: [Corpora-List] Poetry

From: Martin Wynne (martin.wynne@oucs.ox.ac.uk)
Date: Mon Oct 09 2006 - 12:10:31 MET DST

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    I doubt whether you can find what you want, for several reasons:

    1. attributing any given poem to a particular style is likely to be
    highly subjective, and controversial among scholars of poetry
    2. what taxonomy of types of 'poetic style' would anyone use? Are there
    agreed types and terms?
    3. what level of granularity of categorisation should be used? Are there
      sub-types ("late romantic")? Is there a hierarchy that can encompass
    all types and sub-types? How many levels does it need to have?
    4. what do you do with poems that fit into more than one style, or are
    at a boundary between styles?
    5. do the categories fit for poetry from different languages, countries
    or traditions, and for translations?
    etc. etc.

    Now, it may be that these problems can be raised with any form of
    categorisation. The way to address these sorts of problems is to find
    measures which are consistent, transparent and as objective as possible.
    I don't see how they can be found in this case, unless you know of a
    taxonomy that you can work with and which has been consistently applied
    to all the poems that you wish to look at. But I don't think that
    'style' is a sufficiently well-defined concept to be able to do this.

    I'd be very interested to know more about why you want this though.
    There may be other ways to approach your research question.

    Best wishes,
    Martin

    Alexander Osherenko wrote:
    > It's probably an incorrect word 'annotation'. Actually it's important to know that a particular poem is said to be a representative of a particular style. It is not enough to assume that the poems of a particular author are all of some style since humans and also poets do change their authoring style during the life.
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    > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
    > Datum: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:11:17 +0100
    > Von: Martin Wynne <martin.wynne@oucs.ox.ac.uk>
    > An: Alexander Osherenko <osherenko@gmx.de>
    > Betreff: Re: [Corpora-List] Poetry
    >
    >> What do you mean by annotation?
    >>
    >> Alexander Osherenko wrote:
    >>> Hello!
    >>>
    >>> Has anybody seen or maybe heard of an annotated poetry corpus? For
    >> example, poem text and its annotation (romantic whatsoever). The Gutenberg
    >> project is very interesting, but unfortunately without annotations.
    >>> Best poetic wishes
    >>>
    >>> Alexander
    >>
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AHDS Literature, Languages and Linguistics

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