Re: [Corpora-List] ANC, FROWN, Fuzzy Logic

From: John F. Sowa (sowa@bestweb.net)
Date: Thu Jul 27 2006 - 14:13:13 MET DST

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    Rob,

    I'm happy that we can conclude on a note of agreement:

    JFS>> I don't know what hint you're suggesting. That no rule-based
    >> system can ever be complete? I think that's obvious.

    RF> I'm glad you see this, John. It is the point I was trying to make.

    But I would soften the following claim by replacing "should" with
    "might":

    RF> Chaitin's work helps us understand why it should be so.

    Chomsky's fallacy was to take a mathematical formalism, namely
    Post production systems, and make the claim that they capture
    the fundamental nature of natural language. If he had softened
    that claim to saying they were a promising model of an important
    aspect of language, he and his colleagues could have done the
    same research, but without inciting the religious wars.

    I don't believe that we should take another formalism, such
    as Chaitin's or Kolmogorov's, and fall into a similar fallacy
    of claiming that they explain the nature of NLs. Claiming
    that those formalisms serve as a stimulating analogy is OK.
    But I would change either or both occurrences of "is" to
    "may be" in the following sentence:

    RF> This is because natural language text is at some level
    > Kolmogorov complex.

    John



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