Re: [Corpora-List] 'Standard European English' ?

From: Yorick Wilks (yorick@dcs.shef.ac.uk)
Date: Fri Mar 03 2006 - 11:27:22 MET

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    One version of this discussion was had a few years ago when it was
    seriously proposed---I forget who by--to create a corpus of "non-
    native English"; not a corpus of specific Englishes from specific
    non-native groups (e.g. so as to grammar/spell correct the English of
    French speakers, for example, a useful and real task)---but rather
    some general corpus. I think the proposal collapsed under the
    ridiculousness of the idea. I do hope so and that its not out there
    somewhere waiting for users!
    YW

    On 3 Mar 2006, at 10:13, TadPiotr wrote:

    > I have also thought that we are an international list, using a sort of
    > international English, which is quite similar to native English ?
    > But: I do not think that anyone suggests that a non-German using
    > his/her
    > flawed German is actually using an nternational variety of German. My
    > impression is that the number of native speakers of German (yes, I
    > know,
    > let's not talk about the varieties and dialects of German...)
    > exceeds that
    > of non-native speakers of German, while with English it is the
    > other way
    > round.
    > Tadeusz Piotrowski
    >
    >
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: owner-corpora@lists.uib.no
    >> [mailto:owner-corpora@lists.uib.no] On Behalf Of Lou Burnard
    >> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:06 AM
    >> To: corpora@lists.uib.no
    >> Cc: Kate Beeching; Briony Williams
    >> Subject: Re: [Corpora-List] 'Standard European English' ?
    >>
    >> Paul Buitelaar wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> Parveen and all, as far as I know the expression 'Standard European
    >>> English' is sometimes used to refer to British English (as
    >>>
    >> it differs
    >>
    >>> from US English).
    >>>
    >>
    >> Nice to know that us Brits are thought of as forming the
    >> standard for European (i.e. not US) English, but I rather doubt it.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>
    >>> The current discussion on the list of 'Eurospeak' examples
    >>>
    >> however is
    >>
    >>> interesting
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> Presumably there are plenty of equally hilarious examples of
    >> non-native
    >> French speakers' oddities in French, non-native German speakers'
    >> oddities in German, etc. But this being a resolutely
    >> anglophone list, we
    >> don't hear about them.
    >>
    >> Lou
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >



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