Re: [Corpora-List] QM analogy and grammatical incompleteness

From: Yuval Krymolowski (yuvalkry@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Dec 20 2005 - 23:23:11 MET

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    Rob, the uncertainly principle derives from deeper concepts as John Sowa
    writes. These have to do with the basic symmetries that physical laws have
    to adhere to. One of these, for example, is invariance with respect to
    translation
    (in space ;-) from which the momentum/position conjugacy originates. Have a
    look at the textbook

    Course of Theoretical Physics : Mechanics (Course of Theoretical Physics)
    by E M Lifshitz, L D Landau

    and you will see how the principles of classical mechanics are developed
    very
    elegantly from intuitive ideas. These princples can be translated directly
    to quantum mechanics (using different semantics) and this is how we get
    conjugacy there.

    The uncertainty principle is then a rigorous result about the product
    of the standard deviation of two conjugate variables, but it originates as
    John wrote from the idea of conjugacy and cannot exist without this notion.

    If you want to formulate corpus linguistics in terms of physics, then first
    find symmetries,
    conserved quantities etc. and then see. This excercise will at least serve
    to see
    how far (if at all) the "QM analogy" can be pushed. I think it is better to
    start from
    first principles, rather than from the phenomena.

      Yuval

    On Tuesday 20 December 2005 17:29, you wrote:
    > >
    > > > Where does the QM analogy with grammar break down?
    > >
    > > For starters, ...
    > > the operators for conjugate pairs, such as position-momentum
    >



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